the diary
[15:54] rond: an evacuee
[15:54] rond: in her 70's
[15:55] rond: she has a diary
[15:55] rond: of this whole event
[15:55] rond: she was talking about moving the current diary
[15:55] rond: to another nicer book
[15:55] rond: I told her heck no
[15:55] rond: in its original format
[15:56] rond: with the stapled in biz cards from people
[15:56] rond: and little side notes
[15:56] rond: that was a treasure
[15:56] CarlFK: yup
[15:56] rond: that should remain in her family for as long as the can do that
[15:57] rond: I told her that 100 years from now
[15:58] rond: that book will be like looking back to a relative coming out of the 1900 Galveston hurricane
[15:58] rond: and the original hand writing
[15:58] rond: the stains on the page
[15:58] rond: would let that generation
[15:58] rond: connect just a little closer to her
[15:59] rond: we both got a little tearied eyed talking together about that
leaky gas mains
[15:23] rond: other people told me and several of them
[15:23] rond: that as they walked through the water
[15:23] rond: towards the dome
[15:23] rond: they would hear sometimes between house
[15:23] rond: ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[15:23] rond: it was a gas main leaking
[15:23] rond: :|
[15:23] rond: said they heard that all the time
[15:24] rond: or quite a bit
wedding
[15:14] rond: we are having a wedding there tommorrow nite
[15:14] rond: two evacuees are getting married
[15:14] rond: then they are all being sent away from the camp on Friday
[15:14] rond: many to homes
[15:14] rond: some to other shelters
[15:14] josue_m: Ron: you are hosting evacuess?
[15:14] rond: no
[15:15] rond: just helping out quite a bit at a shelter about 15 minutes from my house
[15:15] josue_m: good
[15:15] rond: yeah its been very very interesting
[15:15] rond: have been told some amazing stories by people of all ages
[15:16] rond: I like this guy manuel
[15:16] rond: he is a chef or cook
[15:16] rond: he has a job at a resturaunt near my house
[15:17] rond: I hope to keep up with him for awhile
[15:17] rond: I really admire his story and his attitude
Manuel and his boat
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[15:01] rond: Here is a sad/funny New Orleans evacuee story I was told yesterday
[15:01] rond: there is a guy named manual out at the camp I am working at
[15:01] rond: his wife and daughter and grand kids are at the camp
[15:01] rond: Manual is my age 47
[15:01] rond: he began to get his wife and family out of the house on Tuesday
[15:01] rond: his wife is pretty darn big
[15:02] josue_m: Manual or Manuel?
[15:02] rond: hmmmm
[15:02] rond: don't really know
[15:02] josue_m: k
[15:02] rond: hispanic name
[15:02] rond: but he is a black guy
[15:02] josue_m: then should be Manuel
[15:02] rond: k
[15:02] rond: so he gets a boat
[15:02] rond: to get his family into
[15:02] rond: and ends up getting them to this building where he places them
[15:02] rond: with some other people
[15:03] rond: they live on the roof the whole week
[15:03] rond: manuel goes out the rest of the week
[15:03] rond: with the boat
[15:03] rond: and rescues people
[15:03] rond: all week
[15:03] rond: starts at 6:00 am in the morning
[15:03] rond: ends at dusk in the evening
[15:03] rond: he never rides in the boat
[15:04] rond: only allows women and children in the boat
[15:04] rond: all men either have to hang on the outside
[15:04] rond: or walk and swim along
[15:04] rond: as the week progresses
[15:04] rond: he ends up almost getting in stupid fights several time
[15:04] rond: times
[15:04] rond: in one situation
[15:05] rond: he sees a family that needs rescued
[15:05] rond: when he gets near them
[15:05] rond: the whole family breaks out into a fight
[15:05] rond: he has no idea why
[15:05] rond: but he tells them
[15:05] rond: you guys go ahead and be that way
[15:05] rond: I have other business down the street
[15:05] rond: and goes to pull someone else out
[15:06] rond: well by thursday evening
[15:06] rond: he is just worn out
[15:06] rond: walking in waiste to neck deep water all day
[15:06] rond: and then trying to avoid the fights etc
[15:06] rond: he runs across this old woman
[15:07] rond: he approaches her
[15:07] rond: she begins to chew his ass out
[15:07] rond: :)
[15:07] rond: he trys to calm her down
[15:07] rond: she won't calm down
[15:07] rond: he is just fed up
[15:07] rond: as she is chewing him out
[15:08] rond: she says she is sorry she if she is insulting him
[15:08] rond: he said to her
[15:08] rond: ya know
[15:08] rond: has nothing to do with you insulting me
[15:08] rond: has everything to do with you just being ignorant
[15:08] rond: I have been out here all week in this nasty water
[15:09] rond: pulling people out
[15:09] rond: I have no time for ignorant people
[15:09] rond: you have 3 choices
[15:09] rond: you can sit there and be ignorant
[15:09] rond: or you can walk out of here
[15:09] rond: or you can swim out of here
[15:09] rond: I don't give a damn
[15:09] rond: I am not taking you in my boat
[15:10] rond: so he left her there
[15:10] rond: :)
[15:10] rond: he did ending up pulling around 80 people out of the water
[15:10] rond: on Friday
[15:10] rond: he got his family to the super dome early friday morning
[15:10] rond: he went out with the boat again
[15:11] rond: somehow ended up
[15:11] rond: being picked up by a helicopter
[15:11] rond: taken to the airport
[15:11] rond: he knew if he did not get back to the dome
[15:11] rond: he would be seperated from his family
[15:11] rond: tried to get them to take him to the dome
[15:12] rond: they said they could not
[15:12] rond: so he hiked 4 hours
[15:12] rond: back to the dome
[15:12] rond: after all that other walking the earlier part of the week
[15:12] rond: found his family
[15:12] rond: got on a bus that evening
[15:12] rond: and is now in Fort Worth
Tim searches for his gal
[15:18] rond: Another guy Tim
[15:18] rond: arrived at the dome on I think it was Tueday
[15:18] josue_m: it remembers me on 1998 when we was hit by hurricane Mitch
[15:18] rond: looked all over for his girlfriend
[15:18] rond: could not find her
[15:18] rond: so he decided to go to her house
[15:18] rond: a couple of hours away by foot
[15:18] rond: he did not want to get into the water
[15:19] rond: so he jumped fences
[15:19] rond: went from roof top to roof top
[15:19] rond: did what ever he could to stay dry
[15:19] CarlFK: heh
[15:19] rond: he gets pretty near her house
[15:19] rond: but to coninue
[15:19] rond: he had to walk through the water
[15:19] rond: so he did
[15:20] rond: he hears some gun shots in somewhere in front of him
[15:20] rond: but he has to go near them to get to her hous
[15:20] rond: he finds a dead guy in the water
[15:20] rond: gun shot wound to the back of his head
[15:20] rond: and back
[15:20] rond: he gets pretty nervous
[15:20] CarlFK: oh damm
[15:20] rond: as he is walking carfeully down this street
[15:21] rond: he hears from between these two house
[15:21] rond: ssssssspppppt
[15:21] rond: ssssspt
[15:21] rond: come here
[15:21] rond: a guy whispering loudly to him
[15:21] rond: tells him not to go down that street anymore or he will be shot
[15:21] rond: he backs up the street
[15:21] rond: works his way around that mess
[15:22] rond: finds his girl friends house
[15:22] rond: no girl friend
[15:22] rond: never found her that week
[15:22] rond: she was shipped somehwhere else
[15:22] CarlFK: :(
[15:22] rond: we matched her up and brought her to Fort wort last week
[15:22] rond: so there now hooked back up
[15:23] CarlFK: yea!
Thanks Grig
[2005-09-12 09:08:22]
The weird thing is that eventhough the address was the corrct address, Silas did not know who Julie Grant was, or had ever heard of her.
[2005-09-12 09:39:47] yeah
[2005-09-12 09:39:58] read down lower how my dad found the other guy
[2005-09-12 09:40:02] yeah
[2005-09-12 09:40:16] there are several hundred shelters
[2005-09-12 09:40:26] with hundreds of colunteers
[2005-09-12 09:40:29] volunteers
[2005-09-12 09:40:49] and most of these people coming out of New Orleans
[2005-09-12 09:40:52] er not most
[2005-09-12 09:40:53] a lot
[2005-09-12 09:40:59] are very illiterate
[2005-09-12 09:41:06] very hard to understand
[2005-09-12 09:41:15] with confusing search sites
[2005-09-12 09:41:28] its a bad combination to get this stuff entered correctly
[2005-09-12 09:41:38] yeah
[2005-09-12 09:41:42] i was looking in lists
[2005-09-12 09:41:47] a lot of "cannot understand the name"
[2005-09-12 09:41:53] In order to find Kenneths sister's name
[2005-09-12 09:42:01] I had to get another black guy from the camp
[2005-09-12 09:42:06] whom I could not understand
[2005-09-12 09:42:11] those two talke
[2005-09-12 09:42:13] talked
[2005-09-12 09:42:21] they could hardly understand each other
[2005-09-12 09:42:31] then the brought in the wie
[2005-09-12 09:42:33] wife
[2005-09-12 09:42:49] and they still got the last name in-correct
[2005-09-12 09:42:52] I think I speak a better english, man :)
[2005-09-12 09:43:34] Well its the cajun/black/creole/french/black haitien/many other influences
[2005-09-12 09:43:59] and they are speaking a form of New Orleans English
[2005-09-12 09:45:01] Well, in the light of the way these guys were found
[2005-09-12 09:45:13] I think my chances to find anything are very low
[2005-09-12 09:45:33] yeah
[2005-09-12 09:45:38] unless
[2005-09-12 09:45:51] we have one that is truelly long term and
[2005-09-12 09:45:59] long term work
[2005-09-12 09:46:02] and
[2005-09-12 09:46:14] I have a wiki or something for the searchers to cordinate notes with
[2005-09-12 09:46:30] I might not get anymore of that type of a project from the camp
[2005-09-12 09:46:41] like I said its beginning to wind down
[2005-09-12 09:46:51] and that turn has really started in the last 2 days
[2005-09-12 09:47:09] Oh and by the way...thank you very very much for your efforts
[2005-09-12 09:47:22] don't mention it, Ronnie
[2005-09-12 09:47:34] if you have anything else, I'll be happy to search
[2005-09-12 09:47:42] I tried to tell kenneth I had guys from Romania searching
[2005-09-12 09:47:57] I don't think he knew very much outside of New Orleans
"Thank you for volunterring to help me find the Joseph family."
[08:57] rond: C (Link: http://www.ixsys.com/findme/)http://www.ixsys.com/findme/
[08:58] CarlFK: " none of the 5 above are looking for him" ?
[08:58] rond: yeah
[08:58] rond: or not that I can find so far
[08:58] rond: I am suspecting its a very poor illerate family
[08:59] rond: they have no idea
[08:59] rond: But I have no idea
[08:59] rond: all I have is a conversation with Kenneth
[08:59] rond: and he is not real clear
[08:59] CarlFK: you may want to reword that
[08:59] CarlFK: to me it soudned like "doesn't care"
[09:00] rond: yeah I am not sure how to say that
[09:00] rond: the red flag to me points to capabilities not care
[09:00] CarlFK: right
[09:01] CarlFK: I think I see what you are getting at, but that one phrase...
[09:01] rond: Kenneth will never be able to find his way out of this situation
[09:02] CarlFK: "I have a feeling none of the 5 above know how to look for him" ?
[09:02] CarlFK: what is the "some preliminary work done " ?
[09:03] rond: A couple of sites have been filled out with his info
[09:03] rond: namely the red cross site
[09:03] CarlFK: thought so
[09:03] rond: and there is no matching info found yet
[09:04] CarlFK: may want to make that clear too.
[09:05] shars: mothers is plural? you have his mother in law and his biological mother?
[09:05] rond: biological
[09:05] rond: only
[09:05] shars: shouldn't the s have an apostrophe or no 's'
[09:05] rond: He cannot tell us very much
[09:05] rond: :)
[09:06] rond: I am going to have Leisha cross check it for me
[09:06] rond: this task is one of the saddest things I have ever approached in my life
[09:06] rond: he and I sat there yesterday evening on the front porch of a cottage
[09:06] rond: I had to tell him I was assigned this project
[09:07] rond: and if his mother could be found I would do it
[09:07] rond: he had his head in his hands when I walked up to him
[09:07] rond: and when I left that is how he was
[09:07] shars: I agree with carl in the so far none of the 5 are looking for him, just because they
haven't found him or looked for him online, doesn't mean they aren't looking, they might take offense
to that
[09:07] CarlFK: i salut you (or something)
[09:08] rond: yeah I am working on how to say properly
[09:08] rond: there is a possibility neither side of the family can help themselves in this matter
[09:08] CarlFK: bingo
[09:08] rond: Hmmmm
[09:09] shars: "I have no indication his family has been able to contact him or obtain a method for
searching his current location"
[09:09] rond: I have to dry my eyse first
[09:09] rond: One of the staff yesterday
[09:09] rond: a volunteer fireman
[09:10] rond: had to cry with a 23 year old mother
[09:10] rond: as she told him how she witnessed 6 women
[09:10] rond: give birth to babies in the superdome
[09:10] rond: and the aborted the babies into trash cans
[09:10] rond: she could not get past that
[09:10] CarlFK: wow
[09:11] shars: um...aborted...you mean the babies weren't stillborns?
[09:11] rond: No alive
[09:11] rond: they gave up
[09:11] CarlFK: they babies, or they mothers?
[09:11] rond: mothers
[09:11] CarlFK: omg
[09:12] shars: um
[09:12] rond: ????
[09:12] rond: we can only go with what we are told
[09:12] rond: and cannot really question too much
[09:12] rond: he had to hold her while she cried about it
[09:13] rond: there are good situations too
[09:13] rond: amazingly good
[09:13] rond: and most of the people have great attitudes and are working very hard to become
independant again
[09:16] rond: I actually have a bigger idea for this site but I don't see myself being able to pull it
off
[09:17] rond: that is a site for people to take on a search site/1 person and monitor
[09:17] rond: get local car dealerships or something
[09:17] rond: to commit to a reward of say 500.00 if you make a match
[09:18] CarlFK: na
[09:18] rond: have an option for the reward to be directed to charity
[09:18] CarlFK: I think there are enough people willing to donate time
[09:18] rond: Hopefully so
[09:18] rond: I suspect there is a lot of incapable situtaions out there
[09:18] rond: uncapable ??
[09:19] rond: (evacuees who cannot do the own finding work)
[09:19] rond: we almost have a network setup at camp carter for people to help themselves
[09:19] rond: and oh by the way
[09:19] rond: Dr Phil was out there yesterday
[09:20] rond: he did a surprise match at camp carter and filmed it
half a mind doesn't get it done.
[09:06] rond: C I am going to blog it
[09:06] rond: at some point
[09:07] Grig: "it"?
[09:07] CarlFK: ron - start now. otherwise you will never start ;)
[09:07] rond: ha ha
[09:07] CarlFK: it = ron's accounts of helping
[09:07] CarlFK: or.. if you do start, you will skip the "history"
[09:08] CarlFK: like what you have done so far
[09:08] rond: I have wordpress installed somewhere I was trying to find it this morning
[09:08] CarlFK: wordpress ?
[09:08] rond: yeah a blog
[09:08] rond: It has been an amazing expercience so far
[09:08] CarlFK: I am half tempted to say: just get an account on Live Journal or something
[09:09] rond: thats not a bad idea
[09:09] rond: I have half of a mind to write a book about the Morgan family
[09:09] CarlFK: that way wen you get mentioned on the news, your connection won't catch fire
[09:09] rond: very good idea
[09:09] rond: :)
[09:10] Tracy_P: half a mind doesn't get it done.
[09:10] rond: :)
[09:11] rond: I have had quite a few internal tears so far as I am working with these people
[09:13] rond: Its the biggest saddest most difficult problem that I have ever in my life been close enough to to see insite into
[09:15] rond: It reminds me of what *ALL* of europe might have been like when the NAZIS finally capitulated
[09:15] CarlFK: i can see that
[09:16] rond: Grig might have seen simlar things to what I am experciencing for the first time, he went through the fall of communism in Romania
[09:16] Grig: not really
[09:16] rond: really ?
[09:17] Grig: it wasn't that bad, if you don't count the shootings back in december 89
[09:22] rond: The hardest part for me is seeing a man my age face to face, talking to him, where I am just bringing in a stupid TV and he is almost to tears over that but yet he is trying to do as much as he can to remain hopeful and calm with his wife and daughter being gone and not knowing where
[09:23] rond: that is very hard for me to consume and properly catalog
looking for mom
[09:16] rond: there was a 14 year old boy out there looking for his mother
[09:17] rond: I was not able to see if he was by himself or not
[09:31] rond: that boy does know his mother is looking for him by one list ???
[09:32] rond: a message was sent to his mother where he was at by the same list
[09:32] rond: but
[09:32] rond: the boy has to wait for his mother log on then find his info
[09:32] rond: she could be anywhere moving between centers or to another state ?
[09:33] rond: I felt really really really badly for that boy
[09:33] rond: I just wanted to put my arms around him and somehow make it all better *NOW*
[09:33] CarlFK: yup
[09:33] CarlFK: yer making me teary
[09:33] rond: I had to turn away
TVs for refs
[08:51] rond: Yippeee just got 500 for more TV's
[08:51] rond: Gonna go deliver those now
[08:51] rond: I am on a personal campain
[08:51] rond: to deliver TV's to the evacuee centers here
[08:51] rond: delivered two last nite
[08:51] rond: this will purchase 4 more
[08:52] rond: these folks want some information
[09:16] rond: 2 more TV's !!!!
[09:16] rond: and a possible committment on Wireless internet connection with boxes
labor on labor day
[07:26] rond: It was labor day
[07:27] rond: and I was working in a hurrican evacuation center all day
[07:27] rond: here in Fort Worth
[07:27] rond: Had a good day
[07:29] Grigore: let's try again :)
[07:30] Grigore: what you did yesterday? :)
[07:30] rond: :)
[07:30] rond: Well
[07:30] rond: at first I sorted clothes
[07:30] rond: (donations)
[07:30] rond: there were hundreds of volunteers for each center
I (carl) got cut off so I missed the rest. maybe Ron will back fill this. I am also not 100% sure of dates, so if anyone can figure out when these really happend, leave the date in a comment.
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